{"id":1424,"date":"2023-03-19T14:44:36","date_gmt":"2023-03-19T18:44:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/?page_id=1424"},"modified":"2023-03-20T01:19:32","modified_gmt":"2023-03-20T05:19:32","slug":"judith-cohen-interview","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/submissions\/judith-cohen-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Judith Cohen Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Perhaps you&#8217;ve been in the presence of others who seemed larger than life to you. For me, Edward Bernays, Leonard Cohen and Max Yasgur stand out (for wildly different reasons). <\/span><\/em><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">But, I&#8217;ve yet to encounter a Pulitzer Prize Winner in Fiction<\/span><\/em><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">&#8230; as our Featured Writer has.<br \/><\/span><\/em><\/p>\r\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">American writer and educator Judith Cohen <\/span><\/em><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">had the perhaps unique experience of hosting both a Pulitzer fiction winner and a Prize finalist (plus nine young writers) at the same dinner table. Her short nonfiction\u00a0<\/span><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/judith-cohen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"> Memories of Grace: Dinner with Grace Paley and John Cheever<\/span><\/a><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"> reflects on that evening in the 1970s and its enduring impression.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\r\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">After interviewing her by email and phone, I&#8217;ve put her on my larger-than-life list of who I&#8217;d like to meet next. &#8212; Stephen FitzGerald, <\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Alphabet Box<\/span><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"> editor.<br \/><\/span><\/em><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span style=\"font-size: 18pt; color: #800000;\">What&#8217;s in a word?<\/span><\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Would you mind reacting to a few words familiar to writers? The first is&#8230; Inspiration.<br \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Inspiration can be anything. For me, it&#8217;s travel, hearing other people&#8217;s stories, and reading good writing.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Outlining<br \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Important for non-fiction and for longer pieces. For a complex fiction plot, or an argumentative piece, outlining is a good idea.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">But I often recommend writing freely first &#8212; like a letter to a friend. Then work on the text with outline, cut and paste, etc<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Discipline<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">You need to show up every day and not give up despite setbacks<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">. Just keep going. If too tired, take a break.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Point-of-View<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Can be a single POV or a variety of different voices, but the speaker should be clear to the reader. In an essay, you want to trust the writer&#8217;s voice. I would often tell students, you do not need to use &#8220;I&#8221; to be authoritative and clear about your opinion in expository writing.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Prioritizing<br \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Depends on deadlines, family needs, etc<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">. When I have an assignment, it comes first. If it&#8217;s my own self-created task, it can wait.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Genres<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">I&#8217;ve only been attracted to literary fiction and high-level journalism, but I&#8217;ve just begun to enjoy crime novels<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">. Agatha Christie&#8217;s stories featuring Miss Marple and Detective Poirot, I find highly entertaining.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"color: #7a2f0a;\"><span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\">On writing<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\">.<\/span><\/span><strong><em><br \/><\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong data-wp-editing=\"1\">What prompts you to write the most? An external prompt such as something visual, or an internal one such as a thought or emotion?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Mostly internal prompts, but they may have been triggered by something visual and unconscious. Now, it&#8217;s mostly external&#8230; verbal stories people tell me.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>What is the role of truth in writing fiction?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">When writing about personal issues, it&#8217;s often difficult to reveal painful truths, but this depends on the work. Fiction may require an &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Unreliable_narrator\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">unreliable narrator<\/a>.&#8221; Satire may require deliberate falsehoods.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Good fiction lets me see characters deeply, so that is a form of truth telling. It also allows me to experience other lives and other time periods in a sensual, visceral way, so that&#8217;s also truth telling. Truth telling should not be pedantic, like writing about how bad misanthropy or racism is, but rather letting the reader have the experience.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Is there a type of writing that remains a challenge for you?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Poetry.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Why<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>? <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">I&#8217;m in awe of poetry. I feel like I&#8217;m more prosaic, better suited for prose. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Since the pandemic, I have written some poetry but I don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s very good. It&#8217;s nothing I would submit for publication. I&#8217;ll keep working at it.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Prose can be lyrical and poetry can be prosaic &#8212; the lines are not always clear. I&#8217;ve taught a poetry course to teachers in an integrative Arts program meant to show how they can bring poetry, literature and dramas into the teaching of any subject.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<h2><span style=\"font-size: 18pt; color: #7a2f0a;\">On reading.<\/span><\/h2>\r\n<p>\r\n\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Who are your favorite poets?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">I admire <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philip_Levine_(poet)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Philip Levine<\/a>&#8216;s poems, often about working in Detroit auto factories. I&#8217;m also from Detroit and don&#8217;t know many poets who write about labor<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/poets\/adrienne-rich\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adrienne Rich <\/a>was an important poet for me when I was younger, because of her early feminist concerns. She was an activist as well as a writer.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Several of my contemporaries are poets, including my friends <a href=\"https:\/\/christopherjanecorkery.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Christopher Jane Corkery<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ericafunkhouser.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Erica Funkhauser<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/agnionline.bu.edu\/about\/our-people\/authors\/sue-standing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sue Standing<\/a>. They cover a wide range of themes and styles &#8212; travel, love and myths.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Of course, the greats &#8212; Dickinson, Eliot and Shakespeare.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Is there a single poem you&#8217;ve read lately that you like?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Yes, from Jane Kenyon&#8230; who died of cancer in 1995. I find her simple poem &#8212; Otherwise &#8212; very moving. Maybe because I&#8217;ve lost many friends by this time in my life. It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m intimate with her work, but this speaks to me.<br \/><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">I get out of bed<br \/>On two strong legs.<br \/>It might have been<br \/>otherwise. I ate<br \/>cereal, sweet<br \/>milk, ripe, flawless<br \/>peach. It might<br \/>have been otherwise.<br \/>I took the dog uphill<br \/>to the birch wood.<br \/>All morning I did<br \/>the work I love.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">At noon I lay down<br \/>with my mate. It might<br \/>have been otherwise.<br \/>We ate dinner together<br \/>at a table with silver<br \/>candlesticks. It might<br \/>have been otherwise.<br \/>I slept in a bed<br \/>in a room with paintings<br \/>on the walls, and<br \/>planned another day<br \/>just like this day.<br \/>But one day, I know,<br \/>It will be otherwise.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/252779.Otherwise\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Otherwise, New and Selected Poems<\/a>, <\/em>Greywolf Press, 1993.<em><br \/><\/em>From<em> America&#8217;s Favorite Poems, <\/em>editor Robert Pinsky, Norton, 2000.<\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #7a2f0a;\"><span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\">Miscellany.<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1452 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763-291x300.jpg\" alt=\"Writer Judith Cohen of the United States was selected to the the Featured Writer on Alphabet Box Issue 6.\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763-291x300.jpg 291w, https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763-994x1024.jpg 994w, https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763-768x791.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763-200x206.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alphabetbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/242171558_112249027868652_4868249239216654533_n-e1679083142763.jpg 1208w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 291px) 100vw, 291px\" \/>What fiction have you been reading&#8230; what worked and didn&#8217;t work for you?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Drive_Your_Plow_Over_the_Bones_of_the_Dead\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead<\/em><\/a> by Olga Tokarczuk is about a woman who translates William Blake&#8217;s poetry into Polish. It&#8217;s very strange.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">A book I recently enjoyed is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/41880602-fleishman-is-in-trouble\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Fleishman is in Trouble<\/em><\/a> by Taffy Brodesser-Akner.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>When I look at where you&#8217;ve been and all you&#8217;ve written, the word <em>juggling<\/em> comes to me. You&#8217;ve taught writing at SUNY, Goddard, Harvard, Lesley, and Bard College. You teach yoga. Of course, you write. How do you keep so many balls in the air?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">I&#8217;m retired from a 40-year teaching career so I now have much more time to write, revise and submit work. I did much less when I was a full-time professor.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>When did you write <em>Dinner with Grace Paley and John Cheever<\/em>?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">The initial draft was decades ago and I put it away with many others I&#8217;d written over the years. Now that I have more time, I&#8217;m going back and reading pieces I never finished or submitted. <em>Dinner<\/em> is one of them, and I revised it as recently as this year when <em>Alphabet Box<\/em> expressed interest in it.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">We&#8217;re glad you took the time to submit <em>Dinner<\/em> to Alphabet Box. 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